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South California 51st State
A Riverside supervisor Jeff Stone would like to secede from California and encompass 13 counties naming the new state "South California".
Take a gander.
Reference: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/south-california-proposed-as-51st-state-by-republican-supervisor.html
My opinion, California is an extremely large state split in half by Democrats and Republicans.
Suffice it to say, Sacramento destroyed this state's economy and stole from the local Government to pay off state debt. We can't even water our lawns except for specific days.
If North California wants to live that way let them.
Take a gander.
The 51st state should be named South California, says Jeff Stone, a Republican on the the Riverside County Board of Supervisors. But the proposed 13 southern California counties that would split off from the Golden State would not include Los Angeles.
Stone told the Times' Phil Willon that the ommission is intentional and is part of a plan that would make for a new conservative Californian state.
"Los Angeles is purposely excluded because they have the same liberal policies that Sacramento does. The last thing I want to do is create a state that's a carbon copy of what we have now,'' Stone said.
"Los Angeles just enacted a ban on plastic grocery bags. That put three or four manufacturers out of business,'' Stone, a pharmacist from Temecula, said.
Stone plans on formally proposing secession Tuesday during a meeting of the Board of Supervisors.
South California would encompass Fresno, Imperial, Inyo, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Mono, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego and Tulare counties, totaling approximately 13 million people.
The proposed 51st state would be the fifth largest by population, more populous than Illinois, Ohio and Pennsylvania. South California would take nearly a third of the population away from California, making the Golden State the second-largest state after Texas.
Eleven of the 13 proposed counties in South California traditionally vote Republican, a fact noticed by California Gov. Jerry Brown's office.
"If you want to live in a Republican state with very conservative right-wing laws, then there's a place called Arizona," Brown spokesman Gil Duran said.
Reference: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/south-california-proposed-as-51st-state-by-republican-supervisor.html
My opinion, California is an extremely large state split in half by Democrats and Republicans.
Suffice it to say, Sacramento destroyed this state's economy and stole from the local Government to pay off state debt. We can't even water our lawns except for specific days.
If North California wants to live that way let them.
Jagdgeschwader- The Unknown Soldier
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now we wont be able to sing 50 nifty united states
xxTITAN 08xx- Zombies dun like meh.
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TEXAS WILL BE A LARGER POWER IF THIS PASS!
BLACK SNOW 13- The Great and Powerful
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Texas tried to secede, never happened. This won't happen either.
FoundDa Kiwi- Zombie Killer Of The Year
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FoundDa Kiwi wrote:Texas tried to secede, never happened. This won't happen either.
Yeah, from the country. Don't be so sure, people in California (I can relate to this because I'm from San Diego) are tired of the Government stealing from the local government and failed policies. Because of Sacramento, this state is in serious debt and it's pissing people off.
But, it may just be all hot air. I can't predict the future.
Jagdgeschwader- The Unknown Soldier
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That was during the Civil War and the Governor was impeached to join the confederates. Also I was not referring to that Texas should secede, I should of worded it better but we will be a larger political influence and better state overall. Only competition is California.FoundDa Kiwi wrote:Texas tried to secede, never happened. This won't happen either.
{IMO}
BLACK SNOW 13- The Great and Powerful
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Neither can I. But with what's been happening on capitol hill recently, I'll have to admit, anything's possible. I'm still highly skeptical of this '51st' state though. It wouldn't solve their debt problem.Jagdgeschwader wrote:FoundDa Kiwi wrote:Texas tried to secede, never happened. This won't happen either.
Yeah, from the country. Don't be so sure, people in California (I can relate to this because I'm from San Diego) are tired of the Government stealing from the local government and failed policies. Because of Sacramento, this state is in serious debt and it's pissing people off.
But, it may just be all hot air. I can't predict the future.
I was referring to when in 2009, Gov. Perry said that Texas could secede due to Pres. Obama's spending. Probably should've worded mine better too.BLACK SNOW 13 wrote:
That was during the Civil War and the Governor was impeached to join the confederates. Also I was not referring to that Texas should secede, I should of worded it better but we will be a larger political influence and better state overall. Only competition is California.
{IMO}
FoundDa Kiwi- Zombie Killer Of The Year
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If this happens we need to make north and south Dakota one state to keep an even fifty
BAXTABEAST22- Zombies dun like meh.
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BLACK SNOW 13 wrote:TEXAS WILL BE A LARGER POWER IF THIS PASS!
In other news, education is still at a steep decline in Texas.
(Sorry, I just had to do that.)
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That only with inner city schools and small town schools. (WHICH THERE IS A LOT)Meatshield718 wrote:BLACK SNOW 13 wrote:TEXAS WILL BE A LARGER POWER IF THIS PASS!
In other news, education is still at a steep decline in Texas.
(Sorry, I just had to do that.)
My school is the most academic school in the whole state.
BLACK SNOW 13- The Great and Powerful
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Actually that's another reason they want to split California here. Education is horrible here compared to other states. (With exceptions)
Jagdgeschwader- The Unknown Soldier
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This directly affects me, I'm scared. I DON"T WANT TO LIVE IN A RIGHT WINGED CONSERVATIVE HELL WHOLE!!!!! I already have enough redneck uneducated Obama bashers to worry about!!!
SlashmanG- Thats right, limp away!
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...
If you're going to make a fallacious hasty generalization, at least speak to your own standards.
SlashmanG wrote:This directly affects me, I'm scared. I DON"T WANT TO LIVE IN A RIGHT WINGED CONSERVATIVE HELL WHOLE!!!!! I already have enough redneck uneducated Obama bashers to worry about!!!
SlashmanG wrote:Uneducated
SlashmanG wrote:HELL WHOLE!!!!!
If you're going to make a fallacious hasty generalization, at least speak to your own standards.
Jagdgeschwader- The Unknown Soldier
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BLACK SNOW 13 wrote:
My school is the most academic school in the whole state.
lol... most academic your school is hmmm?
that only works if you mean you only work out of text books the whole time in your classes
sorry, I had a lot of surgar today
SlashmanG- Thats right, limp away!
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Jagdgeschwader wrote:...SlashmanG wrote:This directly affects me, I'm scared. I DON"T WANT TO LIVE IN A RIGHT WINGED CONSERVATIVE HELL WHOLE!!!!! I already have enough redneck uneducated Obama bashers to worry about!!!SlashmanG wrote:UneducatedSlashmanG wrote:HELL WHOLE!!!!!
If you're going to make a fallacious hasty generalization, at least speak to your own standards.
lololo me is hypocrite you say?
its one word and I'm hyper, I mean uneducated as in they start an argument with facts they can't back up they say things and say they are truth even though it hasn't been proven.
and thats very fox news. just saying
SlashmanG- Thats right, limp away!
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SlashmanG wrote:redneck
You say it like it's a bad thing....
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SlashmanG wrote:
lololo me is hypocrite you say?
its one word and I'm hyper, I mean uneducated as in they start an argument with facts they can't back up they say things and say they are truth even though it hasn't been proven.
and thats very fox news. just saying
Sounds like Government and news in general...
Jagdgeschwader- The Unknown Soldier
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Anyway jag you said you lived in San Diego where?
me is in East county
me is in East county
SlashmanG- Thats right, limp away!
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SlashmanG wrote:This directly affects me, I'm scared. I DON"T WANT TO LIVE IN A RIGHT WINGED CONSERVATIVE HELL WHOLE!!!!! I already have enough redneck uneducated Obama bashers to worry about!!!
eegleindia- Hail to the King Baby.
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Harbinger wrote:SlashmanG wrote:This directly affects me, I'm scared. I DON"T WANT TO LIVE IN A RIGHT WINGED CONSERVATIVE HELL WHOLE!!!!! I already have enough redneck uneducated Obama bashers to worry about!!!
what point are you trying to make?
SlashmanG- Thats right, limp away!
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SlashmanG wrote:Harbinger wrote:SlashmanG wrote:This directly affects me, I'm scared. I DON"T WANT TO LIVE IN A RIGHT WINGED CONSERVATIVE HELL WHOLE!!!!! I already have enough redneck uneducated Obama bashers to worry about!!!
what point are you trying to make?
Oh, me? Nothing. Just watching the spectacle.
eegleindia- Hail to the King Baby.
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Harbinger wrote:
Oh, me? Nothing. Just watching the spectacle.
thats weird because by the looks of that stick figure you were whatching in a very condisending way
SlashmanG- Thats right, limp away!
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SlashmanG wrote:BLACK SNOW 13 wrote:
My school is the most academic school in the whole state.
lol... most academic your school is hmmm?
that only works if you mean you only work out of text books the whole time in your classes
sorry, I had a lot of surgar today
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[quote="BLACK SNOW 13"]quote]
It didn't make sense at all
so I was busting your balls
and stop it with those ponies
It didn't make sense at all
so I was busting your balls
and stop it with those ponies
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